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Elowan September 17th, 2002 08:02 PM

A Questionaire - redux
 
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This is a questionaire addressed mainly to the SE veterans - but all may participate. If you decide to participate - please answer truthfully. No strategic misinformation please.
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First part:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">On a scale of 1-10 with '0' being 'no value' plz rate the importance of the following (in your experience) in SEIV:

Weapon or Facility -- Value/Strategic/Tactical
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tractor/repulse beam -- NA/__/__</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shields -- NA/__/__</font>
  3. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Emissive armor -- NA/__/__</font>
  4. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Scattering armor -- NA/__/__</font>
  5. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stealth armor -- NA/__/__</font>
  6. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cloaking -- NA/__/__</font>
  7. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tachyon (weapon destroying) cannon -- NA/__/__</font>
  8. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ion Dispersal (engine destroying) cannon -- NA/__/__</font>
  9. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Frigates -- NA/__/__</font>
  10. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">APB cannon -- NA/__/__</font>
  11. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Null space cannon -- NA/__/__
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you use training facilities and why?</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">do you research Computer Complexes and why??
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Third part:
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Master computer -- NA/__/__
    -- if you use an MC, do you add an Auxillary Bridge? -- Y/N
    I add an AB to my larger ships with MC since MCII only costs 20kt and the AR 10kt. I do that in the event that the ship gets infected with a virus.</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good idea or bad and why?</font>
  3. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Smallest ship with QR -- __?</font>
  4. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you make mixed weapon ships and why?</font>
  5. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you make only specialized ships and why?</font>
  6. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you mix shields and armor?</font>
  7. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What's your favorite set-up if so? That is - proportions of each. Type used?</font>
  8. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How is this ideal compromised by ship size? That is - what do you sacrifice if you have to?</font>
  9. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Is there a level at which shields are preferred over armor?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ September 18, 2002, 23:25: Message edited by: Elowan ]

DirectorTsaarx September 17th, 2002 08:28 PM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Elowan:
This is a questionaire addressed mainly to the SE veterans - but all may participate. If you decide to participate - please answer truthfully. No strategic misinformation please.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">First part: On a scale of 1-10 with '0' being 'no value' plz rate the importance of the following (in your experience) in SEIV:

Weapon or Facility -- Value/Strategic/Tactical
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Long Range Scanners -- NA/5/0</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ECM unit -- NA/10/10</font>
  3. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Combat sensor -- NA/10/10</font>
  4. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tractor/repulse beam -- NA/5/5</font>
  5. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Scattering armor -- NA/6/6</font>
  6. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stealth armor -- NA/7/7</font>
  7. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cloaking -- NA/9/9</font>
  8. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tachyon (I think you mean ionic) (engine destroying) cannon -- NA/8/8</font>
  9. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Frigates -- NA/5/5</font>
  10. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">APB cannon -- NA/8/8</font>
  11. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Null space cannon -- NA/6/6
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Second part:
A) Name your favorite ship type/size and why.
It depends; Battleships and dreadnoughts both get the heavy weapon mount; dreads trade off movement for a couple extra weapons (or extra shields/armor). So they're both pretty good attack ships; however, the punch of a single baseship is fun to watch. Too bad they have such high combat penalties.
For transports, I like medium transports for most jobs - big enough to carry a useful amount of pop/sats/mines/drones, but not so big that it's difficult to fill all the cargo space. I use large transports mainly for troop transport or filling ring/sphereworlds with population.
Frigates & Destroyers make for good stellar manipulation craft (well, for lower-level components); other support ships (dedicated PDC or supply) are generally a size or two smaller than the main attack ships. Obviously, cruiser hull is perfect for spaceyard ships; light cruiser works pretty well for repair bays.

B) How far do you research propulsion and why?
To Quantum Engine I (level 10, I think); best movement bonus, and by the time I get that far on the tech tree I'm not generally concerned about resources, so researching the Last two levels of engines has little benefit.

C) Do you use training facilities and why?
Sometimes; typically if the AI has serious combat bonuses I'll use training to even the playing field. I don't get much time to play, so I avoid multiplayer and don't feel terribly guilty about using advantages that the AI doesn't use.

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Katchoo September 17th, 2002 08:47 PM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
Weapon or Facility -- Value/Strategic/Tactical
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ECM unit -- NA/10/10</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Combat sensor -- NA/10/10</font>
  3. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tractor/repulse beam -- NA/5/5</font>
  4. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Scattering armor -- NA/8/8</font>
  5. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stealth armor -- NA/8/8</font>
  6. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cloaking -- NA/7/7</font>
  7. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tachyon (engine destroying) cannon -- NA/3/3</font>
  8. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Frigates -- NA/5/5</font>
  9. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">APB cannon -- NA/5/5</font>
  10. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Null space cannon -- NA/8/8
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Second part:

A. Name your favorite ship type/size and why.

Dreadnaughts. They have good size which makes them pretty affordable (not to big, not to small). I hate spending 5 turns to crank out a ship. I can usually stock up a Dreadnaught right to the brim and have one built in 3 turns.

B. How far do you research propulsion and why?

I usually research propulsion as far as I can go (Quantum III is the highest isn't it?). Why? Why not. Never hurts to have better engines than your enemy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

C. Do you use training facilities and why?

I haven't used training facilities yet. I almost never let the comp do my battles for me, so if i'm not relying on the AI to do my fighting, then there's no point in researching Training Facilities.

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AJC September 17th, 2002 08:53 PM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
training facilities impact tactical and strategic combat. Whether you or the AI runs your ships in a battle.

>C. Do you use training facilities and why?

> I haven't used training facilities yet. I almost never let the comp do my battles
> for me, so if i'm not relying on the AI to do my fighting, then there's no point
> in researching Training Facilities.

Fyron September 17th, 2002 09:01 PM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
Elowan:
This is probably a stupid question, but do you mean "Strategic Combat" and "Tactical Combat", or "Out of Combat" and "In Combat"?

Elowan September 17th, 2002 09:06 PM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Elowan:
This is probably a stupid question, but do you mean "Strategic Combat" and "Tactical Combat", or "Out of Combat" and "In Combat"?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good question. I meant in combat - strategic and tactical, but forgot about LR scanner out of combat.

The frigate question is more general.

Arkcon September 18th, 2002 12:06 AM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
[quote]Originally posted by Elowan:
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Second part:
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How far do you research propulsion and why?</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you use training facilities and why?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Favorite Size - Battle Cruiser - biggest/fastest, but you need Battleships and Dreads when you meet opponent Dreadnoughts

Propulsion - all the way, but eventually, not all at once. Solar sail gives you more speed sooner, almost unbalanceing

Training - yeah, it's cheezy, but my ships never gain much experience on their own. I'm all for reducing the max level say to 10-15 %

AJC September 18th, 2002 01:36 AM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
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Originally posted by Elowan:
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Weapon or Facility -- Value/Strategic/Tactical[list=1]</font></font></font></font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Long Range Scanners -- NA/_1_/_1_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ECM unit -- NA/_10_/10</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Combat sensor -- NA/_10_/_10_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tractor/repulse beam -- NA/_0_/_0_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Scattering armor -- NA/_3_/_3_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stealth armor -- NA/_5_/_5_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cloaking -- NA/_2_/_2_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tachyon (engine destroying) cannon -- NA/_8_/_8_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Frigates -- NA/_1_/_1_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">APB cannon -- NA/_3_/_3_</font>[*]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Null space cannon -- NA/_6_/_6_

cloaking is good early on , after that...no point IMO. its too easy to detect and it just drives up the cost and build times on ships. IMO the game needs to add levels to cloaking.

Dreadnought
Size cost build times are decent. Not too slow when it has solar sails and q3 engines. Baseships are slugs in space and slow down a fleet.

qIII - best engine and cheaper than q1 or q2
Always add solar sails

training - always. Need the combat bonuses.

[ September 18, 2002, 00:42: Message edited by: AJC ]

Baron Grazic September 18th, 2002 03:22 AM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
1. Long Range Scanners -- NA/1/1
2. ECM unit -- NA/10/10
3. Combat sensor -- NA/10/10
4. Tractor/repulse beam -- NA/0/0
5. Scattering armor -- NA/7/7 - For the ECM Bonus
6. Stealth armor -- NA/10/10 - For the ECM Bonus
7. Cloaking -- NA/0/0 - By the time you get cloaking, everyone has Detect CLoaking ability
8. Tachyon (engine destroying) cannon -- NA/3/3
9. Frigates -- NA/1/1
10. APB cannon -- NA/9/9
11. Null space cannon -- NA/10/10

Dreadnaught for the Heavy Mounts with mix Null/APB/Phased weapons & Light Cruiser for Missile Boats

Research L4 Propulsion soon and then trade for the rest in the mid game.

Training - Definitely. Especially if you are Physic

Grandpa Kim September 18th, 2002 03:24 AM

Re: A Questionaire - redux
 
Weapon or Facility -- Value/Strategic/Tactical
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  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ECM unit -- NA/10/10</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Combat sensor -- NA/10/10</font>
  3. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tractor/repulse beam -- NA/1/1</font>
  4. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Scattering armor -- NA/8/8 for the defense bonus</font>
  5. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stealth armor -- NA/8/8 ditto</font>
  6. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cloaking -- NA/5/5</font>
  7. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tachyon (engine destroying) cannon -- NA/5/5 a lot higher pre v.1.78</font>
  8. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Frigates -- NA/4/4</font>
  9. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">APB cannon -- NA/7/7</font>
  10. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Null space cannon -- NA/9/9
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Second part:</font>
  1. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How far do you research propulsion and why? Quantum I except with low tech cost then I will go all the way to III</font>
  2. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you use training facilities and why? Absolutely! I play PBW. They are utterly essential! When I was only playing solo, I never researched them. I did it once and could not make myself wait the 7 turns to full training when I had a juicy target waiting.
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