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BBegemott December 25th, 2002 01:52 PM

Order of destroying WPs?
 
What is the order Weapon Platforms are destroyed? Does it have sense building Large WP, containing 14 PSG-V (with 5250 shield points) + some other WP containig weapons? With the idea that shielded WP protects armed one.

Still shielded WP is better than Massive Planetary Shielding. Or maybe Large WP, containing 19 Organic Armor-III, is better? BTW, does Organic Armor regenerates damage inflicted to other WP, but on the same planet?

[ December 25, 2002, 11:59: Message edited by: BBegemott ]

Mephisto December 25th, 2002 03:37 PM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.

Fyron December 25th, 2002 06:35 PM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mephisto:
The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?

Mephisto December 25th, 2002 08:04 PM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mephisto:
The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are right, Troops are hit before WPs because they have even less hit points.

Gandalph December 25th, 2002 08:14 PM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mephisto:
The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">From my observations, all units in cargo on a planet are hit in ascending order from smallest to largest. It's a real pain when you play solo and the AI has 30 mines in cargo with multiple Weapon platforms, as your ships shoot out the mines, the weapon platforms shoot out your ships.

Arkcon December 26th, 2002 02:38 AM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Ganerally, for units, it's first on -- first hit. There may be some randomness though.

A shielded wp is a good idea, it at least protects the planet, but its more useful to hit back -- add some weapons to each.

There's nothing wrong with the massive planetary shield, it's just time consumeing to build for the protection it gives.

Organinc armor, IIRC, doesn't regenerate on units.

Remember, if you're playing the AI, it appears it can see the fire power you have in cargo, and will plan a fleet accordingly -- or just skip it for less defended worlds.

Q December 26th, 2002 10:44 AM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mephisto:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Mephisto:
The weapon platform with the least amount of hit points is destroyed first. Shield points just count as hit points for that matter.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Doesn't that apply to all units in cargo? Or are the Weapon Platforms hit before Troops and other units?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are right, Troops are hit before WPs because they have even less hit points.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wasn't this changed in a recent patch?
I see now frequently troops remaining intact on a planet after I destroyed the weapon platforms in strategic combat.

BBegemott December 26th, 2002 07:45 PM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Thanx for the answers, they are really helpful.

Quote:

Originally posted by Arcon:
Organinc armor, IIRC, doesn't regenerate on units.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't know this. Are there more components, which have different features depending on where are they placed (ships, WP)? E.g. I think placing ECM on WP has no sence because the planet still has a large diffensive disadvantage.

Fyron December 27th, 2002 02:05 AM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BBegemott:
Thanx for the answers, they are really helpful.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Originally posted by Arcon:
Organinc armor, IIRC, doesn't regenerate on units.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't know this. Are there more components, which have different features depending on where are they placed (ships, WP)? E.g. I think placing ECM on WP has no sence because the planet still has a large diffensive disadvantage.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It might make a difference in ground combat when troops are shooting at them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Not that that makes it a good idea to use ECM on them or anything. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gryphin December 27th, 2002 02:11 AM

Re: Order of destroying WPs?
 
Would an apropriate test be to:
Control both sides
Prepare a planet with mines, troops, and weapons platforms
Weapons Platforms with no weapons
Send in a ship that could not destroy all of one type of unit in one turn
?
I could try this tonight.


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