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Silent Sorrow February 4th, 2003 05:07 AM

How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
One thing I notice is that if I bump up, say, my race's ship defence ability (10 percent, 15 percent, whatever) it never does show up in-game under the racial abilities when you right-click a ship to view its stats. It of course shows bonuses from on-board items such as ECM and some of the other racial bonuses but not such things as attack or defence bonuses (by race).

Should I just take it on faith that these bonuses are indeed active during combat?

PvK February 4th, 2003 05:28 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
No. It should show them under the "Abilities" tab for your ship, as "Racial Trait: +3% to Ship Attack" etc.

PvK

Silent Sorrow February 6th, 2003 12:12 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
That's just it--the abilities I supposedly have don't show in that tab. (Does it have anything to do with the fact I'm playing a TDM game vs. computer opponents?)

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Originally posted by PvK:
No. It should show them under the "Abilities" tab for your ship, as "Racial Trait: +3% to Ship Attack" etc.

PvK

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Phoenix-D February 6th, 2003 12:16 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
It shouldn't. Post the savegame file?

Phoenix-D

PvK February 6th, 2003 03:21 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
Sounds to me like you really don't have the abilities you think you bought, for whatever reason.

PvK

capnq February 7th, 2003 01:18 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
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Sounds to me like you really don't have the abilities you think you bought, for whatever reason.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You could check what your values actually are by saving your empire, then editing that .emp file in Game Setup/Players.

Silent Sorrow February 9th, 2003 09:48 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
How do I open one of these emp files?

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Originally posted by capnq:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sounds to me like you really don't have the abilities you think you bought, for whatever reason.
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Silent Sorrow February 9th, 2003 09:50 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
Hmm, I would but it says file uploading isn't allowed here. If you have an e-mail address I can send it to you personally and you can have a look for me.

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
It shouldn't. Post the savegame file?

Phoenix-D

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Fyron February 9th, 2003 10:07 AM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
Go to the main Intel Forums page, then go in the first forum (Mods/Scenarios Uploads). You can upload files in there.

You can only view the empire files from in-game. Load up SE4, then start a game, and hit Add Existing under the Player tab, instead of Add New. Select the Empire File you want to view.

Silent Sorrow February 9th, 2003 07:00 PM

Re: How can I tell if racial bonuses are really working?
 
Thanks. So I checked the saved empire and sure enough it shows the 25 percent ship defence bonus I chose for characteristics. But that number sure doesn't show up in the abilities tab for a ship when I click it.

What gives?

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Go to the main Intel Forums page, then go in the first forum (Mods/Scenarios Uploads). You can upload files in there.

You can only view the empire files from in-game. Load up SE4, then start a game, and hit Add Existing under the Player tab, instead of Add New. Select the Empire File you want to view.

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