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dbt1949 June 12th, 2003 04:06 PM

Other races don\'t ever recognize me.
 
I've got a game going where I've developed warp point open and closing early.
So,because I like to be left alone I just seal off my empire until I want to expand then open a warp point.
My question is this:Whenever my scout fleet runs across a new empire they don't acknowledge my existance,except as some kind of pirate I suppose.
There's no listing to any other species in my "alien races" box. Is this because my empire is sealed off from everyone?

JLS June 12th, 2003 04:16 PM

Re: Other races don\'t ever recognize me.
 
Without a Colony that has continues path to that AI's Colony and/or HW, the AI thinks you are a Rouge Nation and will not have Diplomatic Relations with you.

It may be suggested; you reopen Warp, start a line of Colonys, and Close the Warps only if danger is absolute http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Once you and the AI establish a Colonial Link, Diplomacy should flourish http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 12, 2003, 15:20: Message edited by: JLS ]

dbt1949 June 12th, 2003 04:29 PM

Re: Other races don\'t ever recognize me.
 
Thanks! http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/...l/Fool/lam.gif

Slick June 12th, 2003 05:43 PM

Re: Other races don\'t ever recognize me.
 
From the Newbie FAQ:

10.5 Contact
10.5.1 You need a path between any of your planets and any of another empire’s planets to make contact.
10.5.2 You won’t make “first contact” with a race if encounter them while in your cloaked ship and the other race can’t detect you.
10.5.3 If contact is ever lost with an AI race, when it gets re-established, they won’t remember anything about you.
10.5.4 The game engine checks for Contact when you go through warp points, so there could be rare occurrences where you can see the other empire without making Contact yet. An example of this is: You haven't made contact with B yet, but you do have contact with C and have just used the Crew Insurrection intelligence project to steal one of C's ships in a system owned by B and there is a path from this system (previously unexplored) to your systems. You won't make contact until you warp out.

Slick.

JLS June 12th, 2003 05:51 PM

Re: Other races don\'t ever recognize me.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JLS:
Without a Colony that has continues path to that AI's Colony and/or HW, the AI thinks you are a Rouge Nation and will not have Diplomatic Relations with you.

It may be suggested; you reopen Warp, start a line of Colonys, and Close the Warps only if danger is absolute http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Once you and the AI establish a Colonial Link, Diplomacy should flourish http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Also you will loose contact if that Colonial Link is broken; by a Random Event, You or another Player closing a warp point that breaks this path http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

~~~Hint~~~ this may be one way to end a war and possibly start fresh with the AI. If reopend many turn in the future.

~~~Hint~~~To help insure future relations is good with that Warring AI. Before closing WP, check to see if your enemy AI has a Valid Comm. link to another Volant AI or a much weaker Player then the Enemy AI... If not and you do, then give the Comm. to him.
If true, when your war ends by closing the warp point, it may be likely that AI put his Violent way on the others, and most AI do not like Multiple wars, so when reopened you may have a best freind http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I hope, I made sense; with Last hint http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ June 12, 2003, 17:57: Message edited by: JLS ]


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