[PvK]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
You are correct Pvk, but you are proving my point. It's the skill of the player that makes the difference, not the uber weapon or tactic. I don't agree it's unbalenced. I used to, but after some success against it recently I am no longer convinced.

I am not saying it's not a nice thing to be able to hit every time, of course it is. I am simply saying it's not the ultimate weapon. If it were then a less skilled player could use it and be victorious.

Well, I agree it's not "the ultimate weapon" - it won't beat everything in all circumstances, especially if you include coalitions and strikes before the things are developed.

However, I do think it's pretty close to the most powerful device. Like Fryon, I also dislike that it's 100% (I prefer what I did in Proportions, which is to make it offer bonuses that slowly get better but also more expensive, and only a massive research effort will get the always-hits ability).

Getting ganged up on is more powerful, though, especially if it happens before the device is developed!

As far as Furball 3 is concerned though, it was a high tech start and six of the twelve races were religious races. Those two factors should have compensated for the two biggest weaknesses of the tailsman. It's cost to research and the tendancy for players to gang up on religious races. But despite this the Religious races are all but dead.

I never said the talisman guaranteed victory. I just said it was extremely powerful.

I imagine in this game they fought each other, and/or were ganged up on, and/or they got smashed before they could deploy the talisman effectively, and/or they didn't use proper taliman tactics or designs.

In the DimX2 game I faced an opponent who was highly skilled and used the Tailsman to it's utmost potential. For a short time he was effectivly holding off a four empire coalition. But I believe Mark to be a highly skilled player and believe he would have done very well in the game even if he had chosen another racial trait.

Sure. It's very possible to be awesome without the talisman, and the talisman doesn't guarantee victory. All I said is it's extremely powerful device. Something worthy of ganging up against, or launching preemptive strikes against.

PvK