I did it. I let someone talk me into downloading Doga 2 which is free. About 4 hours later with his help I was able to produce these on my own (with some redering from him).
http://www.windingstream.com/se/SpaceEmpires.htm
I would love feedback on everything including Leaglese statements.
[ January 05, 2003, 17:17: Message edited by: Gryphin ]