[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Wardad:

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
... They all degenerate into "anti-war" films with stupid Messages to make you fear war. ...

While true enough, war really is something to be feared.

When I was a kid I found a Picture History book of WWI. It was gruesome even in black and white. Bodies laying in trenches, or piled up like cord wood 100 foot from the enemies lines. Blisters from gas covering face and tongue. Starving children with vacant faces and empty stomaches begging for scraps.

I did not need hollywood films for an anti-war message.

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All too true. Just looking at one picture of the Holocaust camps can make me feel the same way. And guess what? It's still happening. It may not be Jews this time, but it's still the same principal. Look over at what used to Yugoslavia. It's Serbs vs Muslims vs whoever else gets in the way. What used to be Russia is having similar problems. And don't forget Saddam Husseim gassing his own Kurds. But I think you're doing Hollywood some injustice. True, most of the crappy stuff that called "war" movies are inane anti-war stuff or something like it. But I have to disagree that Saving Private Ryan was that. I think you got the message that these soldiers fought, all too many died, for their beliefs. There wasn't any running off to Canada back in the 1940's. Even though there was a draft back then, once Pearl Harbor happened, most men volunteered to join the military. So don't discount all of HOllywood movies. As a matter of fact, if you want to see a non-American war movie that shows the horror of war, check out a movie called Stanlingrad. It's a German movie, and there's no wishy-washy Hollywood crap in it.