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				Re: AI DEATH MATCH 2
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
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				Originally posted by Rexxx: 
 quote: Originally posted by Master Belisarius: 
Gron vs Azorani. 
The Gron won at the turn 470. 
 
			
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 Well, after checking the Gron savegames I have to say again how helpful for me this contest is. 
From time to time (every second or third turn) the Gron think of a LC equipped with CSMs as their best short range attack ship (I guess due to a lousy oversight in the design-file). Not the smartest thing a talisman race can do in mid- and endgame when they can have a DN coming with TKPs and the Talisman. I saw this problem with most of the modded AI races... 
 
In other of my Posts on this topic, I wrote the work-around that in my view fix this problem (talking about the problem with the Sergetti's ships). 
When does exist several ship designes with different sizes, at some point, the AI start to rebuild their ships using small designes (old designes!). 
This start to occur (at least in the cases that I knew), after some time the AI reach the DN size. But think in some way is also related to the weapon that currently is using for the DN. 
An example, the Tessellate attack ships. 
As most the modders, I did different attack ships, depending of the ship size. Here the DN main design. 
 
Name                                            := Attack Ship 
Design Type                                     := Attack Ship 
Vehicle Type                                    := Ship 
Default Strategy                                := Maximum Weapons Range 
Size Minimum Tonnage                            := 801 
Size Maximum Tonnage                            := 5000 
Num Must Have At Least 1 Ability                := 2 
Must Have Ability 1                             := Weapons Always Hit 
Must Have Ability 2                             := Quantum Reactor 
Minimum Speed                                   := 4 
Desired Speed                                   := 6 
Majority Weapon Family Pick 1                   := 22 
Majority Weapon Family Pick 2                   := 0 
Majority Weapon Family Pick 3                   := 0  
Majority Weapon Family Pick 4                   := 0  
Majority Weapon Family Pick 5                   := 0  
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 1                  := 30 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 2                  := 0 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 3                  := 0 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 4                  := 0 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 5                  := 0 
Shields Spaces Per One                          := 250 
Armor Spaces Per One                            := 10000 
Majority Comp Spaces Per One                    := 200 
Majority Comp Ability                           := Weapon 
Secondary Comp Spaces Per One                   := 200 
Secondary Comp Ability                          := Weapon 
Num Misc Abilities                              := 7 
Misc Ability 1 Name                             := Cloak Level 
Misc Ability 1 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 2 Name                             := Combat To Hit Defense Plus 
Misc Ability 2 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 3 Name                             := Point-Defense 
Misc Ability 3 Spaces Per One                   := 250 
Misc Ability 4 Name                             := Self-Destruct 
Misc Ability 4 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 5 Name                             := Multiplex Tracking 
Misc Ability 5 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 6 Name                             := Extra Movement Generation 
Misc Ability 6 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 7 Name                             := Point-Defense 
Misc Ability 7 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
 
The weapon "30" is the Shard Cannon. 
Well, time in time, after start to build these designes, the AI decided to re-create their attack ships... and had not better idea than build  an old CR design, that used their Crystalline Armors and Napal Bombs as weapon... Here is: 
 
Name                                            := Attack Ship 
Design Type                                     := Attack Ship 
Vehicle Type                                    := Ship 
Default Strategy                                := Ram 
Size Minimum Tonnage                            := 401 
Size Maximum Tonnage                            := 500 
Num Must Have At Least 1 Ability                := 1 
Must Have Ability 1                             := Shield Generation From Damage 
Minimum Speed                                   := 4 
Desired Speed                                   := 6 
Majority Weapon Family Pick 1                   := 0 
Majority Weapon Family Pick 2                   := 0 
Majority Weapon Family Pick 3                   := 0  
Majority Weapon Family Pick 4                   := 0  
Majority Weapon Family Pick 5                   := 0  
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 1                  := 13 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 2                  := 0 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 3                  := 0 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 4                  := 0 
Secondary Weapon Family Pick 5                  := 0 
Shields Spaces Per One                          := 250 
Armor Spaces Per One                            := 0 
Majority Comp Spaces Per One                    := 80 
Majority Comp Ability                           := Shield Generation From Damage 
Secondary Comp Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Secondary Comp Ability                          := Weapon 
Num Misc Abilities                              := 5 
Misc Ability 1 Name                             := Quantum Reactor 
Misc Ability 1 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 2 Name                             := Combat To Hit Defense Plus 
Misc Ability 2 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 3 Name                             := Supply Storage 
Misc Ability 3 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
Misc Ability 4 Name                             := Point-Defense 
Misc Ability 4 Spaces Per One                   := 250 
Misc Ability 5 Name                             := Self-Destruct 
Misc Ability 5 Spaces Per One                   := 10000 
 
Why use this old CR design and at least, don't use the other BC or BB availabe ship designes???? 
 
I had an idea: did a paste of the original DN two times, with the idea that maybe the AI could use the second design (that was the same than the first of course!), instead the CR. I was wrong...  
Then, remembered that the Pyrochette never had this problem... and remembered that them used 2 kind of DN ships with different weapons.  
With this idea, I did a new try: designed a new DN that use the other Crystalline Weapon (can't remember the name... I don't like so much this weapon!!), their weapon family is 31. 
This thing fixed the problem!!!!!! The Tessellate started to rotate their ship designes, using the original DN with shard cannon during some time, and time in time, designed the DN with the other weapon as main attack ship. 
 
I had the same problem with the auxiliary ships: Support, Offensive sweepers, troop transport, and even with units. Using the same idea (designes with different weapons for the DN ships), never had again this problem. 
IT WORKED TO ME... and think should work to everybody!!!  
Hope it will help to create more strong AIs! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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