[Andrés]

I apologize for forgetting to put an OT in the topic. Are you happy now?

Many have never forgiven the US of using the atomics. Large explosions are just more impressive than millons of soldiers killing millons of civilians.

I don't share that 100%. I guess that sooner or later atomics would have been used against a real target at least once.
Yes, the ended the war. It's hard to tell how many more or perhaps less would have died in a longer war. The world map would be different that's for sure.
But it was a great move that secured the US position as a dominat potence. And the've managed to keep that place by not letting anyone else to get near ever since.

Saddam is not the only dictator in the world, you know. Many have been placed or supported by the US, you know. And I'm sure he's probably not the one that made the worst atrocities, at least not until he was forced to a desperate situation anyway.
And how can you acuse someone of acting deseperately when you force him into a desperate situation in first place?

No one gave a f*** about poor arab peoples that have been at war with each other for centuries, until they discoverd oil and suddenly they were not so poor.

Iraq had disarmed themselves long ago.
Any mass destruction Iraq has had was to defend themselves from those who whant to steal the oil that is rightfully theirs.
And any weapon found now will most likely be planted by american agents. That's just a pety excuse that never had anything to do to the war your government want.
Anyway saying they can't have weapons of mass destruction is just the US saying "I have the gun, you can't have a gun. I could's shot down anyone I want, but as I don't do it I'm good."

Humankind is sick and tired of being used as an alibi by its murderers.

It is very easy for nations to look past their own short comings as they debate the actions of others. But if the world were left to the historical actions of these same nations, half would be under the colonial boot, and many of the rest would be under the boot of conquering armies. As for the voice of Argentina, I would think that the internal failures of Argentinean government would be sufficient to keep the need for published rhetoric occupied.

FYI Eduardo Galeano is not Argentinaen, he's Uruguayan. But I admit I heard that in an Argentinaen radio.
This text was part of a letter of invitation to participate in the demonstrations of February 15th, and now is being repeated in some media as part of an anti-war campaign.

But internal failures in Argentina are not independent from external influenced imposed by the dominant country.
You forget that the US is about to use conquering armies for its own intersts.
And someday we will decalre our independence from the US renewed versinon of the colonial boot.

No nation has been as generous as America during times of need. And no nation has ever been so generous to its fallen foes as America.

It's easy to be generous when you manage to emerge victor and relatively unharmed from a war that devastaded all other world potences.

Help they've given to other countries while they are the reason they don't have the funds ti help themselves doesn't count.

America is not perfect, but when compared to the rest of the world, we look pretty damn good.

I agree with this. That text I quoted is more anti-american than my feelings.

No country is perfect. No country has the right to call itself saviour of humankind.
No country is evil either. There are no demons on earth. Although you try to make your chosen enemy look like one.
The more you try to convince me Hussein is a demon the more baseless your accusations sound.

This war will only generate more violence.
Humankind will be no safer if a dictator, even if he is half as terrible as you say he is, is killed.
While there are nations that don't have a country of their own, and while foreign nations want to exploit other's resources and keep all profit for themselves, there will be people that will fight for what they believe is rightfully theirs. Figures that lead those movements will be called dictators any bad actions thet make will be exagerated as unspeakable atrocities, any good actions and intentions hidden.

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[ February 25, 2003, 20:52: Message edited by: Atrocities ]