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Old March 7th, 2003, 06:45 AM

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Default Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

I personally knew that War with Iraq was on the very near horizon after 9-11. With the continual failure of the US to track down Osama Bin Laden and display him like a war trophy, War with Iraq and the goal of displaying Saddam Hussien would be become the next best option. This isn’t just a cynical view, but a reality of the American psyche. The great need to go looking for blame everywhere other than in oneself. You ask the average American why 9-11 happened and you’ll get the boiler plate response: “It’s because they hate our freedom and wealth, and because they are crazies and fanatics.” It’s never because,…oh “our government is doing stuff around the world to piss people off and some are going to react with overzealous fervor”

Let’s look at the entire picture of what got us here to this crossroads of war and peace. American backed Saddam’s rise to power to counter the situation arising in Iran. The fundamentalists were gaining too much steam and America, along with all the gulf states and many European allies wanted to prevent a rising tide of Islam governments in region with the world most important resource. They also didn’t want the movement to unite against Israel and force a confrontation which would require direct American and European support. So, Saddam came to power, and we supported his firming of his power to eventually confront the Iranian Revolution. Iraq, until the gulf war, was the most liberal and westernized middle-eastern state, with a very solid middle class.

So, the Iran-Iraq war didn’t go so hot, and they eventually saw the futility of a war over a worthless swath of land, and then brokered a peace deal. Well, that’s all good and well, but Iraq had fought a very costly war and had nothing to show for it and a huge debt load. These same gulf countries had all cheered Iraq’s move against Iran, but now looked the other way when the credit man came a knocking! Little Kuwait had been a HUGE countributor to Iraq, but had also loan some money, and Saddam didn’t wanna pay, plus…and this is where it gets good…Georgie Bush, part one, was really chummy with the Monarchy. Kuwait keeps doing it’s own thing outta OPEC’s limits to hook-up Georgie in providing Ma and Pa Clayton with cheap gas.

So, Saddam loses his mind and attacks Kuwait, We panic and rally the world to kick him out. Now, don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Saddam is crazy in the least bit, he simply over-estimated his military’s capabilities to resist us and We under-estimated our capabilities, so he decided to stay and fight, and we obliged to kick his @$$. We also did him a very nice favor by killing off the dead-weight of the bulky army from the Iran-iraq war, which he could just send home. We eliminated tons of worthless and antiqued war pieces, but somehow, the Republican Guards division when nearly unscathed in the bombing. There are tons of reports about the now degraded capabilities of the Iraqi military machine, eventhough he’s been selling billions of oil illegally and spending that money somewhere?!?!?

Now the other little piece of the puzzle is AmeriKKKA’s most wanted in the form of Osama. Now this guy is a piece of worth, as we help created this wonderful tool to keep the Soviets off their guard in the Stan’s…you know Afhganistan, Pakistan, Ubeikistan…Jollystan, Mollystan,…Pollystan. Then after the war was over in Afghanistan, we discarded them provided an ample breeding ground and source by occupying the Persian Gulf…to protect those poor Arabs from Evil Saddam. Bombing Iraq every week and watching our penis get larger and full ourselves. BANG! 9-11, and the perennial $hit hit$ the fan again when the second piece of the puzzle smokes us and our penis starts to droop! Secretly, we know the world is laughing at us, the mighty us..eerrrrr US. So we go over and kick the living crap outta some Afghans, but ooohhh my Osama and Mullah Omar break camp and most of theirs boys run undercover to plot the next attack. Well, the American public is a fickle lot and with zero progress in getting Al Queda stomped…we turn to Iraq. Number 2 please, number 2 is next in line please.

BUT we are now in a massive oooh ****! The rest of the world is sick of our ****, and are now simply pimping us to get their cooperation. Turkey flat out refused unless the money was right…even after the massive hoopla with the French and Germans. Now that’s a laugh. I won’t even go into the laughable comments about how the French owes us big time from WWII…hmmm I guess we figured that we had already paid them for basically footing the bill for our War of Independence (for some anyway!!!) and for little things like the symbol of freedom worldwide in the little old harbor in NYC called….THE STATUE OF LIBERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could go on and on about how silly the case is against Iraq, and support how it’s all about Oil, but I’ve got better things to do. Most American’s are simply too ignorant for me to argue intelligently about world issues, and they are all so proud of their ignorance. Well, go into Iraq without the UN’s permission (an illegal act) and kick out Saddam (probably won’t get him) and we’ll set up a puppet government to let us get a great oil deal and to also provide even more worldwide support for Al Qeada from borderline Moslems. The government will be paper thin of course and we’ll have to remain there for about 45 years, as we are in South Korea.

I love America, but I’m not too blind to see the truth…this war is nothing more than a thin veil for an Oil grab for a Oil-hungry administration. It’s got little to do with human rights or WMD (what a catchy phrase.) All these simpletons trying to compare the current situation to Germany in 1930 are spewing form fitting rhetoric. They here it on some ignorance news show like Bill O’reilly and do a little research to get do a few facts from the internet, and then post it to display there great knowledge of “cut-n-paste.” America is sliding down that slippery slope of overbearing imperialist. Just remember all those poor Africans the Europeans were saving when they enslaved them, or the similar pattern displayed by Rome in her declining years when she would launch massive military campaigns to spread the glory of the Roman Empire…hence Gladiator the movie. This was is going to come back to haunt in our lifetimes…just wait and see.


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