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Old March 15th, 2003, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

Ok, this what I'm, about to state has no bearing as to if there should be an attack on Iraq or not. For my view on that look down a couple of Posts.

The only way to completely eredicate terrorism is to remove its' growing ground.
The foundation of terrorism is unequality and unjustness.
Real or perceived.

Take as an example, the Israel - Palestina conflict.
If the palestinians where able to leave the refugees camps and have a good life with freedom of education and good chances of getting decent jobs, alot of the terrorism there would disappear.
This is not an extreme point of view, it's a point of view that is shared by many high ranking Israeli officers.

http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2002/11/19/mitzna011119

People tend to turn to terrorism when they are desperate or when they have a psychic disorder making them incapable of empathy.
So to eradicate terrorism we need to eradicate poverty. It's a grand goal but not impossible.
I don't say that I have the solution to all problems but I belive that this is the path we must start to thread if we do want a future in peace, where peple don't get desperate enough to strap explosives on themself and go out and blow people up.

Israel-palestina had a period of peace when things where going in the right direction, unfortunatly that has stopped with the assasination of Rabin.

As to the Iraqi conflict things aren't black and white but rather shades of grey. I do belive that we might be forced to use military power there but there is no rush.
Let the UN decide.
The Iraqi doesn't have nuclears. They have biologic and chemical weapons but their delivery systems are inadequate. Their current weapons aren't more effective than explosives in killing civilians and against a well equipped military they are almost useless.
If the inspections are allowed to continue we MIGHT avoid war.
The springing point is to allow the UN to continue their inspections and discussion. Then we can decide this together.
The situation in Iraq is as in many countries in the world bad for many of the inhabitants. That is no reason to rush into things. Things are bad in Iran, Tibet and some other places as well, eventually we might have to use the armed forces to fix things.
The current situation is difficult as the US can't afford to keep their forces idle their for much longer and Bush has the election next year to consider.
A war might be the best thing, I don't know, I can't be certain of that before it has actually happened, no one can. (:

How to abolish poverty and unjustice in the arab world where a few people are extremely rich and some have almost nothing?
I'm not sure, but a war against Iraq might be the way to go, if it is possible to make a democracy there afterwards a lot might be won.

[ March 15, 2003, 14:24: Message edited by: Ruatha ]
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