[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Thermodyne:
One side or the other is going to have to make war so terrible that even the Islamic terror Groups will sue for peace. Only then will both sides be willing to make the needed compromises.

That won't succed.
There can be nowar that terrible that people won't cry for revenge.
The way is to stop it and back off.
I do respect Israel for what they have accomplished and in some parts I understand what they are doing to the Palestinians but in some parts it is incomprehensible. If you look on their history in WW2 I can understand that they think, never again, but they sould also remember how it was to be on the receiving end.
(The palestinians are no saints either, they are fighting an assymetric war, not apologized but understandable.)

As to Pax Americana, just becourse you are the strongest kid on the schoolyard it does not give you the right to be a bully.
To quote the respected autority , the movie spiderman :
"With great powers come great responsiblity" (I think it was something like that)

Currently the US are ruining alot of their credibilty abroad, threatening Turkey, France, Germany, Russia and others if they won't agree with the US point of view.

Yes, I wopuldn't have liked to see the former east block winning the cold war, but to replace the cold war with bloody war is no success.

Now we have a chance of moulding the world we would like for the future, currently the US are mangling their opinions over everyone that opposes their views, it will take along time reparing.
And the bad relationships will effect the US, the US is not an isolated isle, it is dependant upon the rest of the world wether they like it or not.

I belive that many in the US are suspicious of the UN, as they can't controll it.
That part of the UN is the good part. The UN will always have a credibilty tha the US can't get.
Just becourse on nation can't control it.
Therefore I belive we must work together in the UN.
It's a slow process but so are all democratic processes, that doesn't mean it's a bad way, it gives you time to reflect upon what you are about to embark upon.

(Edit: On another issue; Thermodyne; Check your e-mail)

[ March 15, 2003, 16:36: Message edited by: Ruatha ]