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Old March 26th, 2003, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

hmmmz, to much to quote, i'll give the just awnsers (IMO)

Originally posted by TerranC: 8 Posts below

- Yep, its against Dubya, but the problem is that he is untouchable for them, so they have to cool their frustrations on someone else. (Like in israel, if they could kill sharon, he would be long dead)... But you are right that the real quarrel is with GWB & his administration.

- WMD = nuke. When North Korea has a nukes, US would never attack them. So that means when you have these weapons, you are ok. the quarrel is now with iraq, who pays attention to you now? (in dictatorships and things like that) US won't have money right now to attack you.

- Nope, its about safety... and in their opinion thats the way to garantee it.
Russia vs. tsjetjenie (i can't find how to spell it) when its not in the news anymore, it doesn't mean there is no war there. Also vs. terrorists according to the russians and for the tsjetj they are fighting a war for freedom.
For the chinese its a part, but the tibetanians still think they should be seperate.

- Nope, thats not going to stop them, we see. But should we all follow Dubya (or someone else) if we just can't stop them??? i call it herd instinct
And IMO the Balkan situation was very different.

- Its not conquest... (altough US want to occupy iraq for some time) still the interests of US are the same: Oil, power (in the region) and another regime.
And if you can't see it, i can't change your opinion anyway... so i stop wasting my time on this one.

- This one is a fault a lot of regimes make. They all fight the outcome and never the things that led to them.
Ofcourse someone who's family is killed don't want those Palestinians, but emotions are a bad guide.
When people are cornered and can't have a way out, they do things unimaginable (suicide).
ummm, for example. In jail institutions in my country they always give people(inmates) the illusion that there is a escape. Without that "hope" people just go crazy...
Other example, When you or i are in a situation like that: no food, water, live, money, hope...only dead. We can give our family $25000. The cause is good, cause its for freedom (you have to remeber its an act of patriotism for them!!!!).... so what the heck???
Lucky that not everyone thinks like that, but its not uncommen in that area we know.
The fact is that israel is in the power position, and they have the solution, its just not popular and easy...

- Yes, this one is utopia.
But you have to agree that its a bit crude that you wage a war that costs (i lost count, but around) 150 bollion dollars against 1 person and his regime, when not far away countless more people starve to dead, AIDS, war for food etc... and there was no help for them (in compare)

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Posted by Master Belisarius:
I like the history and have learned that the history repeat itself once, and once again.
I know it, just don't like it.

R.

[ March 26, 2003, 08:49: Message edited by: Some1 ]
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