
April 3rd, 2003, 05:40 AM
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Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
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Originally posted by Sinapus:
quote: Originally posted by rextorres:
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The logistical train is catching up with the forward group. That's why they paused a few days ago.
It's not simply a matter of driving through a sector with a resupply depot, after all. (Or even fleeting 'tanker' ships with other ships.)
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So your saying that they planned for the tanks to be 50 miles from Bagdad short on fuel and for the soldiers to get caught short on rations!?
You've never studied logistics, or spoken with someone familiar with the subject, right?
Shortages are indeed expected. Same with maintenance failures on armored vehicles.
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I'm not a logistical expert no, but it doesn't take a military genius to figure out that it was not intended that way and that it's not a good thing. We won't know why until it's all over, but my guess is the "unwargamed" militia is what has caused all the supply problems.
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It seems to take an armchair general, sitting in front of a computer thousands of kilometers away from the front, who has an axe to grind to come to conclusions based on ignorance and what you think it should be like.
Even if the "unwargamed" militia hadn't shown up, they'd still have to pause periodically so the trucks carrying fuel, beans and ammunition could catch up. (Not to mention let the troops get some sleep.) Which, of course, would lead you to presume incompetence in the planners, right?
Btw, there's a wide gulf between "this was not in the plan" and ["WE'RE DOOMED, MAN! QUAGMIRED, MAN! SUPPLY LINE CUT, MAN!" "STAY CALM MOMMY, I MEAN, SQUAT!"] There is no point in being hostile - I assume I am getting the same news that you do and I've come up with different conclusions (unless of course you have insider information).
Okay then let's just say that they planned to run out of gas and supplies. How would you account for a plan that called for invading through Turkey - when the Turks didn't allow U.S. troops in the first war!? What about Iraqi nationalism!?
Also the reason that this war plan issue is big news in the first place is because the politicians are making such strong denials. They should have just admitted that they didn't account for some things and moved on.
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