[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Erax:
For my part, I have no loyalty towards a piece of land, I am loyal to people and values. If the society I live in loses its values I will seriously consider moving elsewhere (I consider myself to be middle class, if it helps any).

Ok, what you are doing is giving up your country instead of making it better. Countries are not a piece of land, but a group of people with a national identity living on a piece of land.

Now, if you feel that your country is losing its values, then you have the moral debt to yourself of fighting to making it better.
Find out what's going wrong, and try to make it right. There are many ways in the west to oppouse a giving policy.
Keep in my mind that by fighting i don't mean war, cause nothing is more despicable than a civil war in which brother fights brother, and I truly belive that you should consider your fellow citizens to be your brothers, especially if they are not rich.

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