[Erax]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
Ok, what you are doing is giving up your country instead of making it better. Countries are not a piece of land, but a group of people with a national identity living on a piece of land.

Now, if you feel that your country is losing its values, then you have the moral debt to yourself of fighting to making it better. Find out what's going wrong, and try to make it right. There are many ways in the west to oppouse a giving policy.

I was thinking of an extreme case, that's why I said 'society' and not 'government'. Bad politicians come and go and you can always try to convince people not to vote for them again. But if the government starts to take on 'emergency powers', and most of the people genuinely support this move (think Palpatine in Ep II), I will definitely consider leaving the country as one of the options.

This is all hypothetical, BTW. I don't think any of that could happen here in the near future.

My views are quite similar to Dogscoff's. Scoff, tell your countrymen that Wales, England and Scotland have not ceased to exist after becoming Great Britain, so why should GB disappear after it integrates into Europe ?