
May 21st, 2003, 02:37 PM
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Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
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Originally posted by TerranC:
quote: Originally posted by Aloofi:
People that profit from our divisions promote the idea of international brothehood as opouse to national brotherhood because they know that international brotherhood is impossible, and at the same time they take away from us our national brotherhood.
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That made no sense at all. Clarify please. What I meant is that some people use humanism (love the whole human race) to disqualify nationalism.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm aware of how evil nationalism can be. But this evil nationalism is not truly nationalism, but usualy a racist-oportunist dictactorial ideology that takes cover behind nationalism.
Nationalism in its purest concept move people to work towards the commum goal of national prosperity, it eliminates crime, because nobody steals from his brother, it eliminates all kind of social problems, and it doesn't tolerates the exploitation of the poorest sector of the society.
Nationalism is not racist, because a nation involve all the etnic Groups that forms it, national identity is defined by all of its members.
Now, back to international humanism as opouse to Nationalism, you have to see that only a determined society can impouse on itself the values of brotherhood, no nation can impouse that to the world, but a nation can impouse that on itself.
Universal Brotherly love is doomed at this period in history because we are a divide planet, a divide race if you will, since the term race can only be aplied to the whole of human race and not to an individual etnic group. So we first need to create an Political/economic unity, cause is unrealistic to expect hungry man in afrika to feel love for you.
So Nationalism is the only viable option right now.
Besides, nationalistic love doesn't opouse universal love. You do love your parents, your brothers, your wife and your kids if you have them. All these are diferent kinds of love, but you don't have to chose between them, so why should I chose between nationalism and universalism?
In my opinion, those people that promote universalism as opouse to nationalism are promoting something that they know doesn't work and at the same time eliminating one that works. They are perpetuating crime, etnic hate, poverty.
They are dividing us, so they can exploit us better.
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