Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
lets look at the Coalition's countries that have clean human rights records
Afghanistan , Albania , Angola , Azerbaijan , Colombia, Dominican Republic ,El Salvador , Eritrea ,Ethiopia ,Georgia ,Honduras ,Kuwait ,Nicaragua , Philippines ,Rwanda ,Turkey ,Uganda ,Uzbekistan
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Bah , when people think of the Coalition they think of 3 countries, US, UK and Spain. True these hanger on countries have alot of problems. I could debate you on Afghanistan (US forces are still there and there is yet a stable goverment, we can flip a coin), Turkey? bah, they shouldn't be considered since they didn't allow US forces through their country. African countries? Well, there is alot of issues there. Former Soviet Union countries, I would think they are trying to right wrongs, but then again it will take time. The other countries, yea they have issues.
As you can see when you said Coliation, the first thing I think of is those 3 (main) countries. Those are the 3 countries put their kahunas on the chopping block, the other countries have no vested interest either way. When we read all the negative stories in the media, we see things that start with "Bush and his coliation of evil doers", we do not read "Ethiopian troops march on the defensless Iraqis".
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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
You did read me wrong. I believe they should have removed him in 90 when he was doing these mass killings..
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That we can agree with, we should have been there for the Kurds in the north and the Shias in the south. But we didn't, we screwed up then. But, Saddam had over 12 years, how many more years would you have us wait?
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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
The french asked for 3 more weeks....
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The French? Oh, there is a great example of moral superiority (yes, that is sarcasim), why did they want 3 more weeks? It sure as heck wasn't for 3 more weeks of WMD search, even if that is what was said. 12 years waiting for Saddam should have been enough. So what did the French want the 3 weeks for? Maybe they wanted more time for making false documents? Or perhaps they wanted 3 more weeks of skimming off more money from the Food for Oil? How about 3 more weeks helping get Iraqi officials fake passports? And finally, how about 3 more weeks to give Saddam time to get the WMDs out of the country?
I saw a report tonight that the UN thinks that Saddam had 7k to 20k liters of Anthrax. How easy would it be to get some of it out of the country in 1 or 2 liter bottles? Now I don't know what 1 liter of anthrax could do, but I doubt that it would be good.
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Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Time will tell if this was correct.
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Ok, I swear I am not picking on you. But I got a chuckle on that Last comment (hopefully your chuckling at me also). Because I read your comment like this..."Time will tell if I was correct, and if I am proved wrong, well I sure as heck ain't going to admit it, because all that info was planted by the evil doers or aliens".
Hopefully I have got accross the point that I admit I am BIASED, I know that. And if after the 6 months we find no more WMDs than we have so far, I will admit that there was an intelligence failure, and as I said before I think Bush will take full accountability for that failure, he will not pass the buck. I will also be worried about where the WMDs went to, because I don't know of any agency that says there NEVER were any WMDs, just whether or not were they still around in his control.
Ok, group hug time...
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