[Fyron]

When man believe that the world was flat, the Bible clearly stated it was round. (Not a issue of prediction but showing how if man would have looked into the Bible before thinking the world was flat, they would've realized it wasn't.)

Actually, a lot of people did believe that the earth was round long before the Bible was ever written.

It was foretold that the Messiah (Jesus) would come through the line of David. If you look at Jesus' liniage you will find that he did indeed come through the line of David.

Ok. Now you are taken what is written in the Bible as proof of the Bible's validity. That is a huge logical fallacy.

It was foretold that Jerusalem would be destroyed in one night by the Babylon army, those that survived would be carried off into exile for 70 years and then return to their homeland to restore their city. This in fact did happen

Babylon fell into ruin milennia before the Bible was written. How could a Babylonian army sack a city after Babylon is gone?

Aloofi, I am very much aware of "Post-dition" and "pre-diction," and the Bible is not a book of post-diction. It was written well over 2000 years ago and has not been changed one bit.

Sure it has. Books are always changed at least a little bit in translations, whether it is intentional or not.

If you study that verse a bit more, you'll come to see that you are taking that verse a bit too literally.
You will also see that the meaning of the verse indicates that the city will be completely and utterly destroyed.

So now you alter what the Bible means to fit in with the facts of what happened later. Very good evidence, if you ask me. Randomly varying interpretations of the Bible can not be used to say whether it is right nor not.

You are correct in saying he is not the son of man. God put the embryo(sp?) into his mother Mary. His adoptive father (Joseph) was through the line of David. Thus, he could be said to have come thorugh the line of King David.

Well... in the Reality that the rest of us live in, that doesn't happen. Everyone has a human father and human mother. Some guy named Jesus most likely lived, but Joseph was either his biological father, or someone that Mary cheated with is his biological father. Immaculate conception is 100% impossible, and you are using flawed evidence to support flawed claims. Another logical fallacy.

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
None of the "predictions" of the new testament have ever ocurred. Not even one.
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By your saying that, is basically saying that proven secular history did not even happen. The fall of Babylon for example.

No it doesn't. There is no basis of comparison between the two things.

[ February 26, 2003, 22:30: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]