[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Actually, a lot of people did believe that the earth was round long before the Bible was ever written.

Yes, some people did believe this. But mankind in general was what I was driving at.

Ok. Now you are taken what is written in the Bible as proof of the Bible's validity. That is a huge logical fallacy.

My mistake. But did come true, did it not?
I gave other examples to make up for that.

Sure it has. Books are always changed at least a little bit in translations, whether it is intentional or not.

Granted. But those changes that are unintentionally made are not huge changes that will change the Bibles meaning all together.

Originally posted by Aloofi:
The Old Testament is too old to try to put it against history. Not good records back then.

In the new testiment parts of it are still being fulfilled down to this day. The new testiment brought out that we would see multitudes of bad things happening in the Last days. These things are indeed happening. You may say that they have always happened. Granted they have, but not to the extent that they are right now.

Stop posting until I am done with my post.

Sorry.

Well... in the Reality that the rest of us live in, that doesn't happen. Everyone has a human father and human mother. Some guy named Jesus most likely lived, but Joseph was either his biological father, or someone that Mary cheated with is his biological father. Immaculate conception is 100% impossible, and you are using flawed evidence to support flawed claims. Another logical fallacy.

It is perfectly possible when you are dealing with the Almighty himself. He can do anything he pleases.

Like I said before, you believe what you believe, and likewise with me. I do not wish to argue/discuss this any further.

This has totally changed topic from where this thread started.
But I have to take off for a while. I will be back later tonight.

[ February 26, 2003, 22:33: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]