[Krsqk]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I never said that. My point was that people keep calling on me for not doing that, while ignoring it when everyone else does it.

You described (in the other thread, if not in this one) in great detail that you have read such and such, and the authors don't have an ax to grind, etc. You also said that you don't have the sources available to post. The whole point of my post (as opposed to the snippet you quoted) was that your proof might satisfy you, but don't expect it to satisfy those who haven't seen it. Since your replies frequently include phraseology such as "That's not true, according to basic historical facts" yet you haven't posted the facts, I assume you want us to take your word for it.

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Along the same lines, the burden of proof is on you to show the Bible wasn't written ex post facto. Repeatedly asserting is was doesn't make it so. "Show me the money." (To dredge up the previous OT-topic of the previous thread.)

Umm.... I have said that the bible was written after the events occured. I never argued that it was written before the events occured. Why would I ever want to try to prove that?

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Let's not quibble over that extra "n't" in my post, 'kay? I knew I missed something in my edits. The (corrected) point still stands--it is your responsibility to prove there is reasonable cause to doubt the pre-existence of prophetic material.

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BTW, there is at least some evidence that the pre-EDA was still a sort of "Dim Ages"--that is, that earlier civilizations had much better technology and scientific understanding that they are generally credited with (probably because of a prevalent "man-is-constantly-getting-better" bias, which the EDA would seem to belie). The pyramids (not just Egyptian) are probably the best-known example. Many of them are square to within 1/20 of a degree. There are also walls in South America built from huge stones--some up to 20 tons. Many civilizations also apparently understood that the earth was round. Much was lost in the repeated conquests of Greece and Rome, not to mention the later barbarian conquests.

I hope this was not meant to be included in your argument against me, as I have never once written anything contrary to this.

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No, it was just extra food for thought. It ties in with the current topic by showing that the EDA weren't a sudden regression in scientific knowledge, but a more pronounced era of a general trend.

[ March 11, 2003, 00:26: Message edited by: Krsqk ]