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Originally posted by DavidG:
Well I think I was #2. And I'm #3 now and losing every big battle with minimal losses to the enemy. I think your point was that berzerker combo was virually unstoppable when combined with maxed aggerssive and defensive (which BTW I do not have) When 4 of the 5 top players in the game (the six being way way way Last) gang up on the berzerker the outcome is pretty much a forgone conclusion. (especially when they are in the corner and the berzerker in the middle) Berzerker is not the all powerfull attribute you make it out to be. Cetainly not in a multiplayer game.

Not exactly. Yes this thread was originally started when I got to thinking about the beserker trait and what *could* be accomplished with it. Which probably had something to do with our game, although I was not specifically thinking about it at the time. You jumped to the not unreasonable conclusion that I was refering to our game and said something about that. I couldn't resist responding with some similar "trash talk". And things veered off from there.

Sure no trait is all powerful in a multiplayer game. My point was that all other things being equal having bezerker with maxed aggressiveness/defense is much better than the alternatives. Things are never equal ("no admiral in his right mind goes out picking a fair fight").

Personally I believe (although I can never know for sure). I would have done exactly the same thing I did in our game if you had any other racial traits/empire set up. You were number 1 in the game and easily walking over your current enemy and seemed to be pursuing a strategy of "divide and conquer" very effectively. One of those four people you were in a long standing war with that started long before I got involved. I actually only approached one other player with a proposal to ally against you (the number one player) and the final player jumped on the bandwagon once they saw the way the wind was blowing. I wasn't going to turn them down....

In short, I think this discussion is getting a little mixed up in the particulars of one game. Which I am happy to discuss. But trying to say anything about Bezerker because of it is a little hard.