[Gryphin]

Win = Have Fun
Win = Two Hav Phun (My Preferance)
Win = Concour the quadrant
Win = Enjoy concouring the quadrant

We can all look it up in the dictionary.
Here we define it for ourselves.
At that point there is nothing to discus.

I guess when all is said and done it comes down to:
If your ally broke a treaty
Would you feel it was wrong or just part of the game?
Will you ever trust them again in another game
Will you try to get even in another game

About the best I feel you can do is agree in advance how to cancel treatys. If the other player will not agree, (in which case you can't trust them), or if they break the agrement you pretty much have your answer.
Since I have not been and don't think I will be in this situation
Is This all idealistic spectulation?
or
An Unbiased suggesiton?

I susspect many will think I have over simplyfied.