Pax and David
I think you both understand what the other has said.
Pax has define "win" for himself. He knows his "Have Fun" wins will never get recorded as a win on a table anywhere. That does not matter to him.
David has chosen the "standard" defination that most of us accept when used in most conversations. (do you think I put enought qualificaitons in?)
Backstabbing -
What we have done her is established our style of play. I'd suggest to all people going forward that they develop a stock set of agreements on how treatys can be canceled, make them clear to anyone who they make a treaty with and make clear the consequenses of such a violation.
This is not a matter of villifying a drive to win. It is a matter of what some people do and do not feel is an acceptable style of play.
AH Dimplomacy?
Henry Kissenger make it required playing for his class at Harvard.