[Jack Simth]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Only if you want to absurdly take things to the absolute extreme. It is quite possible (and happens all the time) for 2 parties with differing secular views to come to a mutually acceptable agreement without ever having to hurt each other.

I did specify "strongly disagree" - which you quoted! - but it doesn't require an "absolute extreme" to get such things - one modern in progress example would be the abortion issue - one side views it as murder, the other as women's rights with their own bodies (broad generalizations there - there are many shades between; but that is the "standard" characterization of the two sides). Not everyone involved feels strongly enough about it to resort to violence, but enough do that violence ensues. As far as I know, it has yet to run full course.

Also, those three options I listed have differeng shades of degree (the reason I used unpleasantness, rather than violence in the original) - mutual isolation might be a matter of "what you do in the privacy of your own home is your business" - usually the case with adultery, for example; suppression might be a matter of illegalizing the activity and letting the police deal with it - the case with pot usage in the US, for example.

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

Also, it is completely possible to have a moral system not based on an arbitrary religion that does not rely on "feels-right" assumptions, and most atheists have such systems. Some do not, of course, but most still do.

Can you name such a system and give details on it?