Marriage is a tough job, the "Wife" does excert some control over the men of the house

there is an old saying, "can't live with them and can't live without them" a paradox within the confines of human living space. To say one is whipped, depends on the utilization of what is meant by whipped

or for that which is whipped, this terminology as used within the context of GT's and the Gryphin's roboust discussion opens up various interpetations of just what is meant by the term Whipped or what is being whipped.

so therefore I must, in researching scientific subsideraries of this term as used among these two reprobates must inquire as to the term whipped or for that which is whipped in conjunction with Circle the Wagons or the Gryphin Position, or is this just a rendition of two scalywags jousting within the framework of science...
just some ideas Mac