[Triumvir Emphy]

I don't see a problem with points spent 20 or even30 years ago for offensive or defensive Intel projects,... It takes years to infiltrate an organization. Spies don't wake up one morning and decide to steal nuclear plans for lunch. They Spend years trying to find weaknesses etc.

I think most peoples problem with the way intel works is that they don't know how it works. Blame it on the "manual" not on how the intel is currently working.