[Combat Wombat]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Not to mention biting off about half of Mexico in 1848-50. Everything south of roughly Colorado, from Texas to California. Let's see, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, most of Utah, and California. A very big chunk of land taken by conquest.

That land wasn't exactly taken at the demand of the US goverment, mexico let US citizens settle in their territory then the settlers decided they didn't lke being part of mexico so they revolted and broke away, Texas was even its own country for awhile before they applied to join the Union.

The Phllipines have their own goverment now, the downfall of Hawaiis native goverment was far from the fault of the US goverment it was mostly rich business men who did this. I am not the slighest bit familar with what happened with Puerto Rico.

The US trying to create a "New World Order", that is almost laughable take a look at the UN now there is an attempt for a new world order.
Also the UN in their great wisdom are trying to regulate and control the internet.

Europeans please don't preach about manifest destiny unless you are prepared to discuss, Germany and its world wars, England with its crusades and colonization of India and other places, Spain with the Inqusistion, and destruction of a large part of South Americas native population and culture in its crazed quest for gold, Frances constant wars with England, and Napolean trying to take over europe, a very violent Revolutionary war(though done for the right reasons was incredibly violent)

And about Iraq and the whole war on terrorism I will offer this.
Someone said once, something like, "Evil prevails when good men do nothing." In this day of relative good and evil, pacifism is the 'way that seemeth right.'


Very good points Perrin now I don't have to make them