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To the german guy who says that many germans are loaded with guilt over the actions of their predecessors:

You are right, the current generation should not feel guilty of the "sins of the father", and very few people in the world now judge modern germany by it's actions 60 years ago. Most people recognise modern Germany as a peace-loving nation.
The younger generation shouldn't feel guity. Each individual should be judged on their own actions.

However it's interesting that while nobody dreams of judging modern Germany by their actions in the war, many people want us to judge modern USA by *their" actions in the war. How many times have I heard "If it wasn't for us you'd all be speaking german by now"?

To whoever pointed out that neither Hitler nor Stalin came from their own countires: Keep your eye on Schwarzenegger.

And to all those people trying to justify the lowering of human rights: You can't. As soon as you put anything at all- even your own survival (and I we can argue later about just how threatened the survival of the USA is/ was) then you can no longer proclaim yourself to be any better than hitler/ stalin/ saddam hussein/ Darth Vadrer/ insert your bad guy of choice here. Remember that Al-Qaeda also think that they are fighting to protect the survival of their way of life. Hitler used similar propaganda to justify the kind of atrocities we have all been condemning here.