I'll take the bait
So, let me see. First, I think I must not have been that clear. I didn't intent to say that having an opinion of the movie based on an opinion of Moore is "jacka**ed" in some way. Rather I'm just saying it's illogical. Illogical in the sense that from an logic 101 "If A= B and B = C then A = C" point of view.
So, with that in mind, when you say "my opinion that it is a bad movie without having seen it first is an abrgation of my 1st ammendment would be in and of itself an abrogation of my first amendment rights."
Is absolutely true logically and content-wise. But just to clarify: you're stating the same right that people claim when they say "Hey, no one can force me to vote!"
Is absolutely true. And pretty silly, as well.
It is also true, as you state, that "I am free to have my own opinion of this movie and the man without ever having seen it."
But, it is not valid, therefore, to claim that you are making this statement based on logic, nor can you then, legitimately, make further claims based on logic.
And, just becuase you dared someone too, you then go on to say "no matter what someone else may think or say about my right to comment on this movie without having seen it, is false logic." But the entire earlier statement is based on false logic. Now I've confused myself, actually, but its clear to me that we've reached a point herein where a meeting of the minds seems unlikely, since we're effectively talking using two different langauges. (I really do need to bone up on my habermas to understand this better)
From Webster's:
ad hom·i·nem : Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason: Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives.
More at:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ad%20hominem
Quote:
Originally posted by Atrocities:
Here we go again. Fore the record I could careless about seeing the movie and quite frankly I don't need some one telling me that I am a jackass for having my opinion even though I have not seen the movie and that I have no right to say that I don't want to see it based off of my opinion of Moore. To accept the logic that I must see the movie before I can say I don't want to, or that my opinion that it is a bad movie without having seen it first is an abrgation of my 1st ammendment would be in and of itself an abrogation of my first amendment rights.
Simply put, I am free to have my own opinion of this movie and the man without ever having seen it. I know Moore and that is enough for me to say that this movie is a continued representation of his historical pattern to only present his one sided views.
Now feel free to call me what you wish, but please keep in mind that no matter what someone else may think or say about my right to comment on this movie without having seen it, is false logic. And if you quote me on this, and I know someone will, keep in mind that if I upset you enough to quote me, then you take the internet far to seriously.
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