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Old June 29th, 2004, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War

i define corporal punishment as the use of spanking in a controlled and fair manner
unfortunatl as a youth i was not the most obedient nor respectful person
my father did not permit a disrespctful attitude in word or deed to him or more importantly my mother 1 warning 3 noncorporeal punishment chances and then corporeal punishment (spankings )

and he never allowed temper to interfere with punishment (better known as he had me stuck in my room until they deciced on what form of punishment and to what level )talk about anticipation
i mean 8 hours waiting when i truly ticked him off

as far the the ironic smiley ......no its not missing
i have observed in several individuals continued immature behavior and attitudes espially regarding what the world and their family owes them form their early years (11) to now (27) these observations aae of so far 4 girls and 6 boys who are children of family friends whom at least one parent believes that spanking is detrimental to the development of the child in all cases so far i hae seen a pattern of the child remaining in the parents house and usually being supported by the parent with little or no attempts to support themselves with excuses about the unfair treatment they recieve etc

oh and mephisto heres the bad part my father was raised in germany until he was 6 years old his stepfather's name ...keiser a cuban german
my national background a full third german

in america a child or an advocate can sue or remove the children of a parent for just spanking i know of one woman in ohio who has had this happen
i view it as follows
it is my responsibility as a perent to provide my child the best guidance as i can and the knowledge of the consequences of their actions is a part of thaat responsibility no man or woman can take away these responsibilities they can only take my children and if they do so then they are causing they same damage to my children as if i did not provide the guidance in the first place

baron well i suggest you might consider that many parents are just not discussing their attitudes openly any longer as the long term affects of spanking vs not spanking are easily determined by examination of the atitudes and behaviors of a large enough sample of the american population it is easily demonstrated that in the average not spanking tends to slow the maturation of the individual personality into a responsible adult in american society
however in european society this may be different as the cultual differences may provide suffecient alternate forms of instruction

[ June 29, 2004, 07:50: Message edited by: psimancer ]
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