[LordOffender]

I don't know if the Moderators here will let me post this or not as it might be the wrong forum, but I like reading all the other off topic Posts and feel that the people of this forum are adult enough to discuss things rationally. If I am wrong, please feel free to move or delete this post.

Disclaimer:
Now I know I am going to catch flak for this but before I say what I am going to say please keep in mind that I do not condone brutality or heinous acts of violence. I do not support what happened, and hope that things of this nature do not happen in the future.

Topic:
About the sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners.

1. What they did was if you think about it from a humiliation POV, very effective. Here we have Iraqi males who believe that women are beneath them being forced to lay on the ground naked with a leash around their neck held by a woman. The humiliation of this would be horrific for them.

Having a women point at their groin and laugh would be the worst thing for any male to endure and especially so for an Iraqi who again think of women as objects and not people.

I believe they were ordered to do what they did and I feel that there only mistake was not to get these orders in writing. There is an old military rule that says, "Cover your own ***."

They failed to cover their butts and now they are on the cross for it.

If you look at what they did, and again I do not condone it, you can see the logic behind it. They did not harm these men, or if they did I have not read or seen anything about it, and for all intents and purposes they were following orders.

I do not believe these people are sadistic, not like the son of a b@#$@'s who are cutting peoples heads off.

In retrospect I feel the only reason this is an issue is because of all the anti-war out crying we are seeing around the world.

Again, not may call to say right or wrong, but I can see the sick logic behind what they were ordered to do. Sad very very sad indeed.

But that is how things are done in the real world. People like the Iraqis would be affected by being humiliated by a woman.

I do believe that the one who should be on the block are the CIA operatives who ordered the humulation torture.

And the second mistake would have been to take pictures, but I guess that was a needed tool as well, "We are going to show these to your family if you do not cooperate." But posting them on the Internet? Dumb, just plane dumb.