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If that's true about CPS, Attro, then it is a corrupt organization out of control that needs shutting down. Maybe some laws need to be modified. It doesn't amount to a disagreement about abuse on either end of the scale (child abuse, or parent abuse by an agency) - I trust none of us, and no honest and sane people want either. It also doesn't fall under "those darn liberals are to blame".

Parents don't have any way to punish their children besides hitting them are in sad need of help in parenting. That's where an even worse crisis is in this country - too many parents without enough understanding of how to be a good parent.

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