[Atraikius]

Thanks for the info. I've been seening a problem with them either screaming up to the top 3 or just puddling along at the bottom, and by closely watching the scores could tell that it was because of a war very early in the game, but I couldn't tell what was happening.

I have never ended up at war with them myself, because by the time I usually run into them they're big enough that a war would really hurt, so knowing how they are suppose to react in diplomacy, I immediately start sending them bribes, or asking them to attack someone else - a few turns later they are offering a treaty of some sort, and once thier frinds with you they tend to stay friends.