[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Wendigo:
Yet you are. And with those personal attacks you are not only soiling his reputation, but yours also. You could have simply said 'I have no fun playing with NF' instead of insulting him, by calling him a cheater.

I called him a cheater because he _cheated_. I _tried_ to let the issue die in this thread, but Norfleet had to show up and be a patronizing ******* _before_ I accused him of being a cheater in this thread.

You do not consider his 2 lies ethic, fine, but that does not make him a cheater and your insistence on using the term harms you as much as it harms him.

Behaving in an unethical manner _is_ cheating. To cheat is to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice, or to practice fraud or trickery.

Say player X, Y & Z are in the same game, and in a game related thread X tells Y "do not attack me, I am weak, attack Z instead who is the biggest threat" with this being a lie. Would this be 'cheating'?

Not at all, since the player isn't trying to disguise their identity. A player's identity is entirely outside the scope of in-game information.

So you can lie in Messages, you can lie in e-mail but you cannot lie in a thread about the game in a forum or chat room? Where's that rule written? what kind of logic do you use to draw the line?

A player's identity is not in-game information about the strength of a nation or alliances.

Why should he? You have yet to back this with a single reason that doesn't fall in the field of personal ethics.

Cheating is part of personal ethics. You cannot separate the two.

Frankly, drop it. It hurts his reputation, it hurts the atmosphear of this forum, and it hurts you by giving the image of someone engaged in a personal vendetta with no solid ground to be based on. At least in my eyes as an outsider.

Quite frankly, I don't really care if it hurts his reputation, since he does a good enough job of that by himself.

[ June 01, 2004, 18:49: Message edited by: Graeme Dice ]