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*sigh*, you have to have the Last word, don't you?

Yes stinky breath

I have met plenty of ppl who've got to their 2nd or 3rd Dan and become so dissillusioned with all the *****ing and backstabbing that they have moved away from karate altogether.

It is true, very true, karate is just like any other office organisation and full of backstabbers and brown nosers - really annoys me as this is meant to be a hobby

it's one of those discussions that usually degenerates into farcical stories about who's hardest)

that is definately the ex-Royal Marine

I'd have thought Shotokan would be far more useful IRL than kick boxing, and a better all-round workout, too.

not sure, I feel Shotokan spends far too much time copncentrating on kata and not enough on power combinations and defence mitts

If you like your face the way it is, don't do full contact karate.

Yep, unfortunately, no-one else like my face either