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A little off topic maybe... but what is there exactly to hate about LOTR? Fine if you hate Tolkein and his books that's one thing. Whether or not you like the movies is another, but please realize that they are bringing the world of fantasy to a broader audience, and that to me is a good thing. Obviously there are obsesors about it (no worse than Star Wars though), but to get more people interested in elves, and orcs, and evil wizards, seems to me that would leed to more games with fantasy themes, more books, more movies... And most importantly more customers to pay the developers of these games, books, movies...

Ok 90% of them will suck, but 90% of them already suck, so would you rather have 10 good games or 100 good games? Its all a matter of scale...

Anyway, what is the complaint about elves and orcs? They are everywhere, they are in Dom 1 and probably in Dom2, even if they arn't directly called as such. Have you read Robert Jordan? Ok his books suck bad now, but he has orcs, he just calls them Trollocks (gee that's imaginative no?) He may not have elves per se, but he's got about every fantasy themed empire running around somewhere, even if he doesn't come right out and call them by a common name.