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Old October 2nd, 2003, 08:56 PM

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Default Re: A quick question about Man

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Elite warriors are pretty good IMO, can be raised in masses because of their low resource cost, and can be produced everywhere.
They are costly, and suffer from a very low protection. Sure they pack quite some punch, and have good morale, but they are very frail. If you have no gold problem, then I understand that they are better than any other troops that Ctis can field, with perhaps swamp guards with reliefs from time to time.
Anyway, I dont like them much, because when I play C'tis, it bother me to recruit only savage lizards, whereas you are supposed to reign over a nation of Lizardmen. See you have 4 (or is 5) subtypes of lizardmen troops, and you would rely mostly, if not exclusively on the elite warriors? It talks about how the lizardmen are under balanced.

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- their sauromancers cost 180 gp (normal cost of many 'big' national mages), *but* they are only 3-1-? where as the others are 3-2-?

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I fully agree with JO's analysis on this
Ok, they are average and not particularly bad. I must have the bad habit to compare things to Caelum, which generally add insult to injury with his better troops.

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{cold provinces and extra fatigue}
You mean, no counter *early* - Enchantment research is a big priority for C'tis, because of all these reanimation spells, ant it gives you Relief as well (better used by communion-leading shamen - with 2 masters and 4 slaves, fatigue isn't a concern anymore).

And even if their masters do suffer from cold, don't forget their undead creatures are immune to cold effects. If Caelum is a problem, retaliate with spectres, ghosts, behemoths, and hordes of lesser undeads ;-)
How you goes to discard that easily the problem! For relief you need nature 3. Simple, I *just* have to field 5 shamen. So fool I'm to not have my bag of dessicated shamen with me, everywhere I go, with any forces, even medium to small ones. Promised, I wont do twice the error

Ok granted, for big battles you have the shamen. Just check what will happen after the fifth round? Last time I checked, AI seldomly if never cast relief, and revert to howl. Then the fatigue hit, and starting with round 8, the penalties on your units are pretty severe.

My point is the battle of cold versus heat is largely dominated by cold, because of this handy wolven winter. And with Cold blood, C'tis is even in worse shape than any other nation. Even if you manage to have an ample suply of death gems, I dont think that all your units will be summoned ones. You will have Ctissian mages and lizardmen, and they will be crap soon in cold.

{lizard king}
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I do. 17 hp isn't much, but at least that's enough to survive a Seeking Arrow or FFTS or MW, in my experience anyway. And they have an impressive leadership rating, which is good to keep the low morale lizards in line
I reckon that the 17 hp are handy for those arrows. Aside that you pay a level 4 priest for 280 gold. Seems overpriced to me. Can I remind you that Marignon has a level 4 priest, fire 1 magic user for 210 gold?

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don't like the priest-mages much anyway. I want my big priests to stick to Fanaticism (especially with C'tis ;-)
I agree with you that priest mages always seem to cast the wrong spell Still I find the Ctissian priest costly for a nation which is supposed to be very good at that.
I notice that the Hierodule did not appeal comments from you.

You just have to admit that more than half of the units or leaders are underpowered, and I promise that we will find some time for this Marignon/Arco duel

oops sniped the Ermorian part... Have you played against Ermor commanded by Wendigo (Pepe M.). I think you would change your mind about Ermor.
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