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Old November 16th, 2003, 11:11 PM

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Default Re: Is Cyclops worth it as a pretender god?

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Originally posted by PvK:
There are multiple "bionic eye" items which could be good for a cyclops. I haven't tested whether they make a cyclops immune to blindness or not, but usually they cause a "lost an eye" affliction, unless you've already lost an eye. I have used them on commanders who had lost an eye in Dominions I, since it wouldn't do them any more harm. I never saw such a commander suffer the "lost the other eye" affliction, but I wasn't trying...

I believe it was reported in Dom I that if you put in two magic eyes, you would put out your other eye to do so.

There is no such effect for two magic hearts (can't have more than one chest wound).

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It'd be interesting if such eyes could cure blindness, but would also have a chance to be destroyed on subsequent eye hits. For all I know, that's how it works...

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I don't know of any magic eyes that cure blindness - although it would be a big help to a Cyclops.

Can anyone who has the full Version test how magic eyes work for the new Allfather pretender for Vanheim (who, I have heard, starts out missing an eye - but doesn't get any wisdom in exchange, AFAIK. He should at least get a research bonus, higher MR, or something!) - i.e., does the first magic eye go in his empty eye socket, or does he put out his good eye to put it on?


No one has mentioned yet the trick of equipping assassins with magical eyes and sending them against the Cyclops - in Dom I he would often find the magic eye on the assassin's body, put out his own eye, and put the magic eye in its place.

In my opinion, whenever a leader finds an item that curses, horror marks or diseases the bearer, causes an affliction when equipped (eyes and hearts), or can't be removed once equipped, it should be sent to the lab. Perhaps even all salvaged items should be sent to the item treasury (instead of being equipped on the finder) - that would be preferable to the current system.

Otherwise, we'll just see more "assassins" with bane venom charm (or fever fetish, or rod of the leper king), knife of the damned, eye of aiming (if you're going against a Cyclops), and possibly black heart (if it wasn't an assassin to begin with) - in addition to the medallion of vengeance, of course.

I don't mind (much) losing a commander to an assassin with rod of the phoenix, bane blade, or some other powerful item that kills my commander - or even to summoning assassins (skeleton talisman, lifelong protection, empoisoners or other death mages using Raise Skeletons). Or having them permanently weakened by an assassin with a Flesh Eater, Black Bow of Botulf, or now Vision's Foe.

But I do mind having a commander (or prophet, or pretender) crippled by a failed assassination attempt because he imprudently looted the assassin's corpse and put on cursed items. Any non-mindless being should know better than to wear a Bane Venom Charm (unless lifeless or undead), or put out its one eye for an Eye of Aiming.
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