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Originally posted by Jasper:
Perhaps. Feudal Japan for example was at times quite orderly, but had such problems.

Sure. Although I believe it was more a pastime in the nobility than in the peasantry. Maybe early medieval Iceland would be a better comparison.

I also suspect the honor/face issue ran deeper into Roman society than you suggest, as well as the rest of europe.

But the vast majority of these disputes were solved by established courts, or the feudal lord. Impromptu courts were sometimes assembled in the steppes to deal with feuds that went out of control, but they were exceptional.

I think the anecdotes about safety of trade, the overall stability of rule, etc. have more weight overall.

Hehe, when one has to give weight to anecdotes... . You seem to be a well learned person, so I assume you already know the anecdotic history of young Temujin?

Anyway, in the mongol empire, the true mongol-born were a tiny fraction of the population, the bulk of it was Chinese, and the mongol laws were enforced by chinese or persian court officials, so in the end I'll have to agree with you that a "mongol" Tien Ch'i nation in Dominions shouldn't have turmoil by default.