[Keir Maxwell]

Originally posted by Zen:
if the rules change or things are adjusted to fit what you've already come up with and you cry *No!* for that, while at the same time stating in another thread "There is almost no other option but to take Order3 in competitive MP" then there is something intrinsically wrong.

Er - what am I crying "No" to that has changed? I have come up with a whole range of races which I believe are new additions to competitve MP approaches and I'm concerned that they might be nerfed by a proposed rule change. They work with the existing rules. Somewhat different to the way you put it above which I don't entirely understand.

What I'm saying it that if you fix the order 3 misfortune 3 problem in a number of the suggested ways you kiss goodbye to alot of options this has opened up. If order/misfortune makes for awhole lot more options in MP then I would have to say I prefer the existing scales to the old ones - given other changes to the game. I would rather have to play order/misfortune than return to the narrower range of competitive MP approaches that existed in Dom1. I thing it would be very sad (and unlikely) if bless races were nerfed. Having gone to the trouble of creating the bless system I imagine that Illwinter are happy people like me are trying to make maximum use of it given that many vets wrote off bless effects.

Changes to game settings like events uncommmen will not change the problem of losing 120 design points as I have already calculated issues like that in (give me a little credit for taking account of the obvious Zen). Some race designs would take very little of a hit losing 120 design points (as long as everyone else does) - others simply cease to exist. Some race designs don't exist at random events commen and are killers at random events rare and visa versa. Its like slight changes in the worlds environment which do not affect some species but wipe out other ones that were already tenuous.

Improve turmoil (for some races/themes) don't nerf order. Improve luck don't nerf misfortune.

Thats what I'm saying. Otherwise I lose my toys and sorry Zen but I reckon thats a bad thing.

Ciao

Keir