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The only time I'd use a pretender is at the very beginning of the game when I'd need that extra general on crack to do some damage or something, Moloch makes a nice one gets a few free imps every battle, plus he slices and dices though the competition.

But yah, as Tera said.. immortal is almost a must, and then you better bring a huge army to be damn sure you capture the province.