[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Wauthan:
Good to hear that C'Tis Falchioneer and Elite Warrior got their uses. If a bit more specialised one then I hoped for.

Why "specialized"? Neither of them can withstand damage as well as Swamp Guards, so both need fodder (read: undead) to be effective, but other than that their role isn't any different: engage the enemy and kill him faster than he kills you.

C'Tis is my favorite nation after Atlantis. Trouble is that I get a lot more power for my gold by simply going for heavy infantery and a morale boosting priest than using these two units.

These two units (especially EWs) can be raised in numbers, the SGs can't. And they move 2 provinces on the map. If SG weren't so clumsy I sure would use them more often, but one of the reasons why they're better survivors is I can't get them to the front fast enough . Besides you need Prod+3 if you want SGs in decent numbers, while relying on less resource intensive troops allows you to spend your design points elsewhere - eg, on magic: air 3 is good to have if you plan to rely on EWs or falchioneers.

Can you give me some tips for proper deployment since the problem I have is that they die far faster then I can accept.

Undead fodder to distract the enemy (soulless, dispossessed spirits - or even basic longdeads). Behemoths to fight side by side with your EWs. Berserk and Protection spells will help too. I rarely recruit anything but EWs after Alteration 6.

I must have really bad luck with Jotun Hurlers. I would never imagine these guys Lasting one combat turn against heavy cavalery.

They won't, if you use them without spearmen. When I have to deal with HC or knights, I use about 1 hurler for each 3-5 Jotun spearmen. You have to take the higher AP of the hurlers into account when deploying them. With a bit of practice, you should get your battle setup right and suffer minimal hurler losses.

They either get swarmed, since they walk so close to melee range, or they toss their boulders into the backs of their fellow giants (nothing new but these missiles are way too dangerous to allow friendly fire).

Strange, I've always found friendly fire was not a big concern with hurlers thanks to their limited range.