[AhhhFresh]

Originally posted by Arryn:

quote:

---

Originally posted by AhhhFresh:
[qb]Vine Ogres, I'm not sure about... they can't be summoned underwater, and can only be summoned one at a time... and nature magic isn't exactly R'yleh strong suit.

Vine Ogres can be summoned 2x with an Ivy Crown, 3x by Crown of the Ivy King, and 4x by an Ivy King himself. That's 4 ogres for just a single gem. A real bargain.

EDIT: PS - Knights cannot be bought underwater either, nor can most indies. The ogres are a suggestion for a tough, cheap unit that DOES NOT EAT, and is not a magic troop.

EDIT 2: Given that illithids are giant-sized, and expensive, you need to develop some nature strength anyway so that you can make supply-boost items (feed 'em) and also cast Gift of Health (keep 'em alive) ...

---

I certainly work towards 5 nature with the squidies for Gift of Health... but it's relatively slow going. It's gonna take two empowerments plus a couple items (Thistle Mace + Moovine Bracelet?) to get there with a Starspawn who has a random in Nature.

To deftly tie that back into independent units topic... Druids(2N) or Jade Sorceresses(2N + 2?) could help a great deal in that regard...

I'm looking more for semi-quick ways... convievably cavalry could be brought in if your first above water fort is cleverly placed.

I have yet to make a pretender for R'yleh with any skill in nature... a Monlith would be a natural fit for that since he has a point in nature and astral already, but he's stuck underwater... at least early... and he doesn't have head or hands slots anyway (so only 1 vine ogre a turn). Same deal for the Void Lurker, but he's even worse since he's immobile and aquatic....

So what are you left with that can be a nature pretender for R'yleh at a reasonable price (I really like good scales)?

Arch Mage? He's aquatic... but at least has a bunch of slots...

Hmmm...