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OK all, seems I was right, the new patch is there.
I will be out of town until next week Tuesday, at which point I can start the game under 2.11, if that is ok.
As previously mentioned, all settings are standard except Independents, which will be 5.
Let me know if everybody is still on board and ok with the general gist; on Tuesday if I have all your pretenders, we can get started. Are we ok with the nations as they now stand? Please let me know if the underwater people still want underwaterness as it now stands.
Tending towards Cradle, but will make that dependent on the final number of players, which is now capped at 12 maximum.
best to you all (and sorry for the delay in starting -- Real Life duties call)