[Endoperez]

I thought you were worried about the fact that national troops and mages became worthless in the endgame. I got that victory with Caelum. I also had access to some SCs, but I thought that this more "basic" army would be better in this case. I posted it as an example of what a normal army with national mages can do.

My frontline consisted of Living Statues, and they were even slower than I had expected. My Mammoths got stuck behind them instead of going for a trampling trip. It seems that (even) more "basic" frontline would have been better. But as I said I was Caelum, I didn't have Temple Guards to hold the frontline and my Iceclads had better things to do... In my games, my weak Caelians have many uses. Flying in melee to get killed by Ulmians is not one of them. Mages are one of the strengths of Caelum. Why would I have to not use them? There are better nations for playing with strong melee armies. Ulm, Steel theme of Pangaea, Jotunheim for those fond of elite armies, Abysia has heavy infantry although their mages are a major power for them.


You have told that you dislike the current system where proper SCs can destroy whole armies, and mages and magic are best ways to get rid of them. What would you propose as a way of getting rid of SCs, then?

Big armies? What use would SCs be then? Your army would have to take the first punch and if they routed, your SC would die soon after. SCs woudln't have any role left, as they wouldn't be able to kill armies all alone and they couldn't even change the tide of battle, as the basic armies would decide that, too.
Many physically stronger pretenders would lose much of their interest, as putting them to the front line can get them useless even now when they potentially can kill whole armies.

Also, are you sure you have tried all the mundane ways of killing strong units? X-bows work against units with high protection in general, and Wraith Sword leaves most creatures without shield. Undead frontline distracts him and renders his lifedraining worthless while your x-bows make some new holes through him... And given enough crossbows even if he gets his life back he will eventually die. Also, remember the afflictions! Afflictions and fatique are the two things that will take down any SC. And either one is enough!

[ April 25, 2004, 15:37: Message edited by: Endoperez ]