[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Zen:
I don't particularly think that it would be more fair to have the New Era Panii more magically powerful than the Base Panii. Attracting Maeneds is all fine and good, but with the 2E Pan he's worth his heafty pricetag.

(1) It's thematic (sort of). NE uses better armor, NE smiths are its Panii, who should be well versed in earth magic for the same reason Master Smiths are.

(2) I can't understand your point about the lack of fairness at all. I agree that attracting Maenads isn't really worth a magic level, but it's more fair by several orders of magnitude than what we've got now: 1 earth level AND maenads vs NOTHING - for the same 350 gold?!? Are you kidding? Plus, default Pangaea gets almost all what NE gets, bar 2 points of protection on a few units, and much much more to make up for that several times.

To downgrade the base Panii and upgrade the New Era doesn't neccesarily fix the problem, but changes it to another.

Hell if I understand why you say that. The only problem is balance, and I can't see this change doing anything but helping fixing that.

I'm fairly certain the biggest gripes of Base Pan are the Satyrs and Minos.

The Satyrs are the same in NE. And base War Minos are just fine - much better than NE Minos.

Not the Panii being overpowered.

They aren't really - but they sure look overpowered when compared to their NE cousins. Or these look underpowered if you prefer. And I see that as a problem.

I would like to see the New Era Panii have 2 Earth, even with the sacrifice of a Nature (Finishing up with 2E2N)

And why wouldn't you want to mahe the NE Pan at least as powerful as the standard one? Do you think NE is a better theme overall?

rather than putting *ANY* Pan at 1E3N. Just for the sake of being able to use Earthpower and forge Boots.

The random pick is still here. Just for the record, Panii in Dominions 1 had 1 earth 3 nature and no random. Pangaea wasn't considered as one of the most powerful nations then, but they weren't crap either.