[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Vynd:
Well like everyone I agree that it is hard to find a reason to take one of the human Pretenders. (Although it took me awhile to figure that out.) Personally, I like the idea of making them better while also making them more unique. I mean right now they're basically all the same Pretender except for one piddling "special" ability that in many cases you'll hardly use. So I like the idea of giving them more/different paths to start with, or giving them more in the way of special abilities (like PDF has suggested except moreso).

By "Special" abilities that you'll hardly ever use, I guess the great druid's bonus to casting vinemen / ogres? Nice bonus in a sense, but using a pretender to summon vinemen is such an incredible waste that it's rarely going to be done.

Might be different if the druid started with Vine Men / Ogres as an intrinsic spell. Or if the bonus was in the form of a unique misc item, that could be handed off to another nature mage.