[IKerensky]

Well I want to point out something you seems to implicit and I dont agree with.

You say that :

'Old'/'Good'/'Experienced' players know what's it like to be a 'New'/'Bad'/'Raw' player

So apparently you say that an old player is also a good and experienced one and a new player is obviously a bad and raw...

Seems more right to say that there is

Old players and New players.
Good players and Bad players.
Experienced and Raw players.

Old players are usually Experienced players, but that doesn't make them automatically Good. Some Old players are still Raw ( lack of playing ) and even Bad.

New players tend to be Raw, and this affect their gameplay wich tend to be Bad. But some New player learn fast ( forums ) and play a lot wich build them Experience ( developped by years of practicing similars games ) and make them Good players.

You start to see my point ?

Problem seems that people keep using Old/Betas as an adjective opposite to News/Newbies. They uses thoses as taunt and equivalent to play quality or game knowledge ( "Stupid Newbie" ).

I guess we can go a long way toward correctness and mutual comprehension if we all make effort to try to use the Right adjectives for the Right people toward their Right capability.