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				Re: VQ Counters -  NO Debates
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
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				Originally posted by Molog: 
 Wouldn't mandrogoras be a good counter. They are undead, their sleep vines ignore armor and etherealness, six attacks pro mandrogora, 4 hits would be enough to put the vq to sleep, less if she was already fatigued.
			
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 The problem with mandrogoras, is that they don't fly...  so they won't be able to get to her before she buffs.  Though I was recently schooled to their effectiveness against SC's in a recent MP game...  
 
Is the sleep effect resisted with MR?  If so, a fully decked out VQ should be nigh immune...  and if they're not lifeless, then the old Soul Vortex + Wraith Sword would keep her pretty safe methinks. 
 
EDIT: They are undead (duh!) so of course they're lifeless, but MR negates the sleep effect...  so I dunno...  if she's almost at 100 fatigue after buffing, then you might be able to get her...  since Soul Vortex won't help.  But I doubt it would do much against a fully equiped VQ with reinvigoration items and a sky-high MR. 
 
  
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				Black forest Ulm gets that Nightzehrer hero, who is a better Version of the vampire queen. Only not stealthy, but he can get an heroic ability. Make him your profet for better effect. 
 
Pretty new at dominions, so might be wrong. 
			
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 I don't know his magic paths, but VQ's really only become uber with a lot of magic...  so it's unlikely that he would be quite as effective as an optimized VQ. 
  
 [ May 06, 2004, 19:43: Message edited by: AhhhFresh ] 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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